Identification 66

Identification 66
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Jacques Lacan
雅克 拉康

17.1.62 VIII 1
Seminar 8: Wednesday 17 January 1962

28.2.62 XI 6

(12) Here obviously it is only our own which is important. But
is it not more significant than anecdotes, accidents, even
exploits, to the precise point that one can point out the
slenderness of the point of conjunction between the functioning
of the categories and sensible experience in Kant, the strangling
point as I might say, at which there can be raised the question
of whether the existence of a body, altogether required of
course, could not in fact be put in question in the Kantian
perspective. As regards the fact that it is required by right,
is there something which has not at all been done?

在此,显而易见地,仅是我们自己的选择才是重要。但是,它难道不是比轶事,意外,甚至剥削,都更加重要。甚至,我们能够指出连接点的薄弱,在康德的范畴的功能与理解的经验之间的连接。我不妨说,这个致命的点,在那里,这个问题能够被提出:身体的存在,当然这完全是需要的,事实上是否能够被质疑,从康德的观点。关于它有权利被要求的这个事实,有某件东西根本从来没有被做过?

In order to presentify for you this question in the situation of
this lost child that the cosmonaut of our epoch in his capsule is
in when he is in a state of weightlessness, I will not put any
weight on this remark that the tolerance of it, it seems, has of
course not yet been put to the test for very long. But all the
same the surprising tolerance of the organism of the weightless
state is all the same likely to make us pose a question, since
after all dreamers question themselves about the origin of life –
and among them there are those who say that this suddenly began
to fructify on our globe, but others say that it must have come
through a germ which came from the astral spaces.

为了跟你们呈现这个问题,在迷失的小孩的这个情况,我们这个时代的太空人处于迷失的情况,当他处于没有浮力重量的情况。对于这个评论,我将不给予任何的强调。似乎,对于它的容忍长久以来当然还没有被质疑过。但是仍然地,没有浮力重量的状态的有机体的这个令人惊奇的忍受,仍然可能让我们提出一个问题。因为毕竟,所有的作梦者都质疑他们自己,关于生命的起源—他们当中有些人们说:这对我们的地球,突然开始具有生产力。但是还有些人们说:从星际太空前来的精子,一定曾经成功地到达

I cannot tell you how indifferent this sort of speculation leaves me. All
the same, from the moment that an organism, whether it is human,
whether it is that of a cat or of the least lord of the living
kingdom, seems so happy in the state of weightlessness, is it not
precisely essential for life let us simply say that it should be
in an equipotent position with respect to any possible effect of
(13) the field of gravity?

我无法告诉你们,这种的推理让我的興趣索然。仍然地,从有机体,无论是人的有机体,无论是猫或生物王国的最微不足道的主子的有机体,似乎对没有浮力重量的状态,是如此的高興,对于生命,这难道不是确实很重要吗?我们不妨仅是说:它应该处于有力量的立场,关于地心引力的场域的任何可能的影响?

Of course, the cosmonaut is always
subject to the effects of gravity; simply it is a gravity which
does not weigh on him. Well then, there where he is in his
weightless state, locked in as you know in his capsule and what
is more again sustained, moltonne from all sides by the folds of
this capsule, what does he transport with him in terms of an
intuition which is pure or not, but phenomenologically definable,
of space and of time?

当然,太空人总是隶属于地心引力的影响—只是地心引力并没有压在他身上的重量。呵呵,就在他处于没有浮力重量的状态的他的处境,众所周知,他被锁于太空舱里。而且,他被维持,四面八方都被太空舱的层层区隔笼罩。用直觉的术语来说,他随身运输些什么,除了现象上可定义的东西,时间与空间的直觉?

The question is all the more interesting
because you know that since Kant we have all the same gone back
on that. I mean that the exploration qualified precisely as
phenomenological has all the same brought our attention back to
the fact that what one can call the naive dimensions of
specifically spatial intuition, are not all the same an
intuition, however purified one may think it, that is so easily
reducible and that the top, the bottom, indeed the left preserve
all their importance not alone in fact, but even by right for the
most critical thinking.

这个问题仍然更加有趣,因为你们知道,自从康德以来,我们仍然回溯到那个。我指的是,确实有资格作为现象的探索,仍然将我们的注意力,带回到这个事实:我们能够所谓的明确的空间的直觉的天真的维度,仍然不是直觉,无论我们认为它是多么的纯净。那个仍然还如此容易地被化简,这个顶端,底端。的确,不但左边保留他们的重用性,而且,有权利从事最批判的思维/

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